On Monday, Jay Glazer of FOX Sports added the next new big piece of news in #DeflateGate, reporting that the NFL has interviewed a locker room attendant who allegedly took footballs from the officials’ locker room after they had been inspected and approved “to another area on way to field” before the start of the game.

First, per a league source, the other “area on way to field” is a bathroom.  The bathroom consists of one toilet and one sink and a door that locks from the inside.

Second, according to the same source, the person carried two bags of balls into the bathroom:  the 12 balls to be used by the Patriots and the 12 balls to be used by the Colts.



Third, from the same source, the evidence comes from a surveillance video that was discovered by the Patriots and given to the NFL early in the investigation.

Fourth, again from the same source, the video shows the employee in the bathroom for approximately 90 seconds.

Could the employee have fished 12 balls out of a fairly large bag, deflated each of them by two pounds, put them back into the bag, and exited the bathroom in roughly 90 seconds?  That question will surely become the centerpiece of the next red state/blue state debate between folks who have determined that the Patriots have done something wrong and those who are staunchly defending the franchise.

And, yes, the photo accompanying this story was taken inside one of the bathrooms at Gillette Stadium.  When NBC broadcast the Ravens-Patriots playoff game from Foxboro on January 10, Florio Jr. demanded pictures from the venue.  Since he didn’t specify where he wanted them from, I took one inside the bathroom and texted it to him.

90 seconds? Maybe to deflate one or two balls, tops, but more than likely just enough time to take a leak… from a human bladder, not a pigskin.

I’m looking forward to seeing the Zapruder film of this bathroom footage. If the culprit has a pair of Uggs on, we’ll know the fix is in.

What a waste of time this whole thing is. This guy went for a quick piss and didn’t want the balls messed with. The NFL, The Colts, The Ravens and all the other miserable people look like fools.

90 seconds? Aside from probably not washing his hands, I’ll wager he took a tinkle real quick or checked his hair before making his public appearance.

It just seems to me like the Patriots are going to keep lying again and again until the truth comes out. It’s not going to be a very good look for them when the truth does come out.

Student Equipment Manager from Big 10 school here. Definitely doable. Takes about a second to release a couple psi from a football with a gauge.

He had to take a leak and couldn’t risk leaving them outside the door. Some on could have tampered with them -_-

Yeah, definitely had the chance to go deflate those balls exactly in 90 seconds. Never stops with you Florio…

To add to my post, if the kid is in the bathroom for 5-10 minutes, sure he could have been taking a dump, but it sure would look like football tampering. 90 seconds? To get each ball exactly the 2# difference? Nope.

Does human urine on footballs cause them to deflate faster? That’s the next twist this is taking…or maybe that the acids in urine soften the leather to Tom’s specifications….?

I understand that The Patriot Way is about being smarter, more creative, and more efficient than the competition, but 90 seconds seems like a pretty short time to get the job done. 12 balls? So that’s 7.5 seconds per ball.

Heck, maybe they are so smart they know just how long they have to inject the needle to get it down by two pounds or so.

If one was trying to design some kind of quick move to deflate the balls, this would definitely be one of the scenarios.

On the other hand, maybe he was just doing his business for those 90 seconds…I’m sure we’ll have some deflate timings going on over at Carnegie Mellon…

This is bad news for Pats. No way he did this on his own accord. This is exactly how Belechek and/or Brady are caught.

Anyone care to tell how Pats fans would react if the football David Tyree caught in the Super Bowl was later found to be deflated? Winning isn’t as much fun when you cheat.

90 seconds in a bathroom? and PFT is making this sound like a smoking gun? You guys and the NFL should be sued for everything you own by Kraft for flaming the embers in this ridiculous story. I challenge anyone alive to take 12 balls and deflate them in 90 seconds and get them all at the same psi. Furthermore, if someone has to go the bathroom that is responsible for the balls, is he supposed to leave them outside?

Definitely no number 2. Probably not even number 1. He probably had to pass gas or pick his nose or something. Not nearly enough time for any funny business with the footballs. Not relevant, strike this from the record.

So that is it, right? Not going to be a smoking gun unless the kid admits to wrongdoing. Going to be a pretty unsatisfying result for both sides since this doesn’t totally implicate nor totally absolve the Patriots. You can now see the thought behind the strategy of Belichick getting the alternative explanation out, though.

Book shakalaka! Now just get the Patsy (pun intended) to squeal on Jessup (Kraft) and his co-conspiritors (Belicheat & Brady) and then…”stop. Hammer Time!”

Oh. Wait. Goodell is still commish. Never mind…sweep sweep, hush hush, nothing to see hear…get blinded by Katy Perry’s assets whilst drinking domestic beer and store bought seven layer dip plebians.

The fact that some of you, despite all the evidence, or lack thereof, can’t just accept nothing happened is ridiculous at this point. We are literally being told by reporters about how a ball boy went to the bathroom for pee. You’re all so jaded. Since when has a team accused of doing anything had their entire organization, top to bottom, come out and deny any wrong doing only to have it blow up in their face? Never happened. And it won’t happen here. Clearly they didn’t do anything, and the KNOW it. Any further hate at this point is 100% biased and a stubborn unwillingness to accept the truth. Any common sense should tell you this thing is a joke and it’s over.

Unreal, so some guy takes a pee with both balls and were to think he deflated 11 balls in 90 seconds? Face it haters, it’s over!

The Patriots beat my team this year – and I seriously doubt that deflategate had anything to do with it.

To be fair, in week one it took the water boy 17 minutes to get them just how Brady specified, but by the AFCCG he had it mastered down to 90 seconds but did miss 1 ball.

Well that explains it all! The balls entered a humid environment. Clearly the humidity in the bathroom, combined with urinal pucks scent, created the perfect atmosphere, that UNFORTUNATELY lowered the PSI in the balls to an unacceptable level. I mean the dude just had to take a wiz on the way to the field. Case closed. Better start drafting that apology to the Pats Roger. Better yet……throw in a couple first round picks for Bill to trade away.

Wasn’t there a hold up when they were switching balls at the start of the second half because the ball boy was in the can? (The refs had the bag, just not him). Poor kid had the sh1t$ and now he’s accused of ruining the NFL. This is nuts. Nothing happened, just on the lower limit to begin with and then. Azure took its course along with some sour ravens/colts grapes.

Dude needed to pee. This isn’t a smoking gun. Pats haters will say they cheated. Pats fans will defend his right to take a tinkle and us normal people would say – if I’m gonna be outside in the rain for 90 minutes I better relieve myself first. Hope he washed his hands. That would be the crime in this scenario.

90 seconds. 90 seconds. Seriously? I understand some people just need to troll, but it seems fairly innocuous and realistic that a kid about to spend two hours on the sideline would probably want to take a leak. And it sure seems ENTIRELY unlikely that he would be able to get nearly a dozen footballs precisely to what Tom Brady would consider “perfect” in just 90 seconds. Game. Set. Match.

Excited to see the continued effort to explain how they cheated…”he went into the bathroom for 90 seconds, plenty of time to remove air from the balls by exactly the same amount and then rush out, knowing he was being timed by a camera outside the locker-room.” Get a clue folks..and a life. Accept the Pats are the most dominant franchise in league history. You don’t have to like it. Just accept it as fact.

This is what it has come to. The NFL is investigating a guy for going to pee. Were he in there for 3 or 4 minutes we may have something here, but for 90 seconds? He was going to pee.

GODFATHER 2 : THIS COMMITEE OWES AN APOLOGY ! KRAFT THINKS HE’S ROBERT DUVALL THE CONSIGLIERE FOR THE CORLEONE FAMILY .

justannflfootballfan says: Jan 26, 2015 11:06 PM Might have dropped a gigantic dook and the subsequent gases relieved 2 pounds of pressure.

the answer to the central question here is – no. No chance. Especially because there was no rush, the guy didn’t know anybody was watching. You’d be hard pressed to to do 12 balls in 90 seconds if you were being timed. If anything this lends even more credibility to the Patriots and Bob Kraft.

Someone needs to be suspended a year, player staff or owner. === Yeah… Like Harbaugh, Pagano, and Irsay, if they had anything to do with this little affair stirring up.

Circumstantial evidence? Yes. A substantial addition to the growing mountain of evidence? Yes Is it getting very, very difficult for the Pats to mount a defense? Yes.

The pats are brilliant. While all these other teams spend hours roughing up the balls to their QB’s liking the Pats once again are on the cutting edge. They figured out that if you pee on the balls it will cause shrinkage. The best part is if they get intercepted……..the other team now has pee on their hands………LOL good one Bill!

Ahhh the NFL MEMORIES:::::: Raiders = cheating coaches out of bonuses, Chargers = illegal use of stickum, Bengals = cheerleader sex with minor, Buccaneers = targeted by DEA for pain killer violations, Panthers= steroids, Dolphins=racism, Cowboys=salary cap violations, Redskins=salary cap violations, tampering 49er=salary cap violations, DEA investigating Painkillers Jets=tampering (over and over) Steelers=Steroids and coach tripping Saints=bountygate Bills=pimping out cheerleaders, Colts=junkie owner, Ravens= Ray Rice video and Ray Lewis murdering, Broncos = salary cap violations, Falcons = Dog killers Browns = criminal owner and texting sideline, Vikings = Love Boat and kid abuse, Seahawks = NCAA rule breaking coach , DEA investigating pain killers Giants= faking injuries, Chiefs = bugged coaches offices, Eagles= substituted dry footballs for kicker illegally, Packers = Brette Favre painkiller addiction, Rodgers over-inflated balls

This is a joke. NFL got into something they weren’t ready for at a bad time. I think they will end up issuing apologies and Goodell may be firing someone.

I just conducted a scientific experiment. It took me approximately 90 seconds to deflate my bladder and wash my hands. God forbid he used the bathroom before the game. He should definitely be fired for that.

12 balls in 90 seconds? It would certainly take a lot of practice to get that fast. …Didn’t Warren Sharp’s fumble data suggest the anomaly has been going on since 2006? Hmm. Yep, that’s a lot of practice.

So the kid took a leak before he went out to do his job because he probably wouldn’t have a chance again until halftime and that is the smoking gun?

This is getting stoooooopid. The NFL is going to end up looking real bad if this is all they can hang their hat on.

“..Could the employee have fished 12 balls out of a fairly large bag, deflated each of them by two pounds, put them back into the bag, and exited the bathroom in roughly 90 seconds?..”

Yes, because 90 seconds is enough time to deflate 11 footballs. If the intention was to deflate the footballs, wouldn’t the logical decision be to deflate both teams footballs? The only factor (that a non delusional person would know) is that it was time to bring the footballs on to the field, and on his way to the field, he had to empty his bladder. People never look at all the factors. This new piece comes out, “THAT’S EVIDENCE!. THEY CHEATED. HAHANJDSKFSDFS BALLS!”

The guy had been doing it for so long that he got it down a science to deflate them in 90 seconds. You can do a lot in a minute and a half.

BB’s next statement that the atmospheric pressures the balls experienced in the bathroom contributed to their decrease but of course he’s not a scientist so………….

Way to go glazer!! You the man bud!! What a story you just broke! Wow dude, you should find another job. For real tho k

He urinated and couldn’t leave the footballs unattended. The NFL front office has jumped the shark. Me thinks the owners have had just about enough of this. See ya Goodell. See ya Kensil. Time for the adults to take charge.

BREAKING NEWS: New information just discovered. A secret tunnel was found the same bathroom leading to a mockup vault of the Bellagio casino….Ocean’s 11 style! Proof positive they are guilty! What a joke…..

Maybe roger has footage of the last pee this kid took and they were too close together for both to be actual pees

BB is so far ahead of everyone! He probably has five equipment managers trained and capable of 90 second deflations. He knows there are no cameras in the bathrooms and he probably knows the average amount of time it takes for a dude to take a leak. After getting busted the first time he made sure to cover EVERY possible angle so he could keep securing an edge. Also, fooling the dip sticks running and reporting about the NFL does not make him a genius, just a jerk.

i don’t like the patriots but really? Video of someone going into the bathroom for 90 seconds? Keep fishing. Really a good chance he had to use the restroom, wash his hands, and check himself out for the cheerleaders.

7.5 seconds per ball plus entering, potentially locking the door and taking them out of the bag, and deflating each ball to a similar level.

It is definitely laughable that this is the NFL’s evidence AND that it came to light after yet another leak from the league. Tod Wells must be angry.

Maybe urinating on footballs and then immediately exposing them to cold temperatures causes a 2 psi reduction?

Maybe they had another bag already filled with the doctored balls hidden above the drop ceiling… === That would work, except that the referees mark the balls. If the refs are consistent in their markings (they don’t change from game to game) and you had an experienced forger (so that the referee thinks he’s looking at his own handwriting), yeah… you could pull that off, I guess.

Maybe he should have peed before he got possession of the balls. Especially since the policy is that the balls go from the officials directly to the field.

And even more especially that the balls from the Colts were not affected by the imaginary atmospheric conditions the Patriots are claiming caused this.

The only reason 11 of 12 balls were deflated was because he took too long. He had 90 seconds and all he could change were 11.

I said this from Day One. Some nobody dives on the grenade. The Patriots fire him and make a whole big deal about it………maybe even show Kraft, Belichick and Brady waving their fingers at him like Babu did to Jerry on Seinfeld and then he ends up with a ton of money in an account somewhere for being a good soldier and taking the rap.

Well only the trolls, the delusionals, and the clearly mentally ill haters are left now. The Pats are vindicated and the haters have to admit…finally…the truth…the Patriots are just better…

Do we know if there was maybe a helper or two already waiting in the bathroom to assist with deflation? It seems somewhat unlikely, but the other Patriot violations haven’t been exactly simple matters to solve either.

“Since when has a team accused of doing anything had their entire organization, top to bottom, come out and deny any wrong doing only to have it blow up in their face? Never happened.”

|- |- |- |- |- |- |- |- |- |- |- |- Pictured above is what the video doesn’t show. Said Ball Handler dropped this contraption, that to me looks like a 12 Ball Speed Deflater™, just down the hall from the bathroom. I’m the first to report this finding.

To be fair, in week one it took the water boy 17 minutes to get them just how Brady specified, but by the AFCCG he had it mastered down to 90 seconds but did miss 1 ball. === The missed ball is a 20 second penalty.

This story just reached a historic new level for dumb. Little did that ball attendant know that he was handling something so precious he shouldn’t stop to relieve himself on the way out onto the field. This poor dude probably thought bringing the balls into the bathroom was the BEST way to both keep track of the things he was responsible for AND relieve himself before he goes out in front of 80,000 people. Little did he know he should have arranged for an elite team of NFL lawyers to monitor the balls while he relieved himself.

BTW, manufacturing a needle and assembly to exactly deflate a ball by 2lbs is trivial. More than enough time for the balls and taking a leak…

According to Warren Sharp’s statistical analysis, the Pats have been doing this since the beginning of the 2007 season, so I’m sure that dude is quite practiced at deflating balls quickly by now. Ninety seconds is plenty of time for someone who has had a lot of practice.

Told you. He went to take a leak before heading out to the field. If he would have left the balls unattended you guys would be screaming about that and he would likely be out of a job. The press is ridiculous. Glazer knew what the other “area” was but he chose to present it in a way that could seem suspicious. Go back and read all the troll comments in the other story and you get the idea that there are an awful lot of lemmings blindly playing follow the leader

Letting the air out is easy. Removing balls from the bag, lining each one up to muscle out air and then corralling back into bag in such a short time would require a lot of rehearsal. Unless that bathroom had an attendant, too?

Pats trolls in full effect. 3 feet of snow and everyone is signed in to give a thumbs down. There are two type of people on here, intelligent people who know the Pats got caught cheating, and idiots.

Can’t wait for the reenactment on the networks tomorrow to see if it’s possible. You know it’s coming.

I’m pretty sure “Wilson” the volleyball from Castaway is still more famous than these 12 footballs, but it’s getting close!

What’s that? — 90 seconds? Don’t talk about — 90 seconds? You kidding me? 90 seconds?! I just hope we can end this witch hunt. #Framegate (in Jim Mora’s voice)

And even more especially that the balls from the Colts were not affected by the imaginary atmospheric conditions the Patriots are claiming caused this. === Do you know what the Colts’ ball pressures were before the game? At half time? No? Then you can’t say what you just said and expect anyone to believe you. Final conditions depend on initial conditions.

For the hundredth time: “Legal” is a range. If you start near the top, you can lose pressure due to cooling and still be legal. If you start at the bottom, you can’t. This works in reverse, too. Start near the top on a hot day and you’ll be over the limit, whereas a ball that started near the bottom would be within limits.

Lol, this case is history. You approve the guy in charge of securing balls a free pass to the bathroom on the way to the field ??

Jesus Christ the NFL can prove nothing without a confession from a ball boy who was in a bathroom less than 90 seconds.

Am I wrong or did PFT not report that the investigstion was “zeroed in” on this guy and that he was “a person of interest”?

NFL fans know that the best games of the year are the conference championships. The Superbowl is almost always a letdown.

Deflategate has been more entertaining than anything any of the sports reporting talking heads have said all week about the upcoming game itself.

Maybe the guy had to take a leak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And didn’t want to leave the balls around!!! Jesus. Unreal. The answer is no, he couldn’t take air out of the balls in that amount of time. UNREAL.

Letting the air out is easy. Removing balls from the bag, lining each one up to muscle out air and then corralling back into bag in such a short time would require a lot of rehearsal. Unless that bathroom had an attendant, too? === If there were an accomplice in the bathroom, that would be on tape, too. You’d just have to run it backwards and make sure the entrances and exits match.

So I guess everyone is just going to overlook the fact that the PATRIOTS are the ones who turned in this video.. If they thought this was so bad, why would they turn it in to the league and not just destroy it or something? Come on people…

The more you do it the faster you become at it. I bet with as much practice as he’s had at deflating the balls he can probably do one every 5 seconds. The second guy was probably timing him.

During Mueller’s investigation of Commissioner Roger Goodell were there daily leaks to the media. No.. none. Nevertheless, Roger’s office has no problems leaking evidence to the media prior to the conclusion of an investigation.

This is about the “integrity of the game” and we have people looking at what ball attendants do for 90 seconds in the bathroom.

Unless the “leaker” confesses to being a needle expert, the league has nothing at this point other than apparently inconsistent PSI readings from game-used footballs.

Things could change if there’s something else that comes along, but as of now, the Patriots are out in front on this one.

Ironic that their own video skills will help them with the league. I don’t think the haters will acknowledge that, thought.

I can’t seem to find the link to the video. Is this an article about a video without a link to the video?

So…go inside, lock the door, open the bag, take the first ball out, deflate it to exactly the right pressure, put it on the floor (so you don’t mix it up with the balls you haven’t deflated yet), take the next ball out, repeat 11 times, then pick up all 11 balls that are laying around on the disgusting bathroom floor in one fell swoop (is that even possible?), get them back into the bag, pick up the bag, pick up the Colt’s bag, *unlock* the door, and saunter casually out.

The remarkable thing is the kid got the pressure so exactly right for all 11 balls in such a compressed amount of time.

But wait – Carnegie Mellon did a study which showed that the combination of air pressure and rain would have achieved the same thing.

The one thing we can determine beyond a shadow of a doubt based on this brief 90 second time frame is that this dude’s prostate is in perfect working order!

So they find a video of a guy taking a leak in a bathroom but dont find the video of a woman being punched in an elevator ? Awesome.

FoozieGrooler says: Jan 26, 2015 11:15 PM Maybe they had another bag already filled with the doctored balls hidden above the drop ceiling…

Just stop. The refs mark the balls with silver marker after checking. Seriously your ignorance is showing. Zip up your fly.

Who the heck would take 12 footballs into a bathroom to take a leak with them? It’s absurd! It literally takes 3 seconds to let 2 psi out of a football. This video certainly makes things look worse for the Pats.

Ok so this video was “discovered” by the Patriots and given to the NFL? And, the NFL fell for that?

That would work, except that the referees mark the balls. If the refs are consistent in their markings (they don’t change from game to game) and you had an experienced forger (so that the referee thinks he’s looking at his own handwriting), yeah… you could pull that off, I guess.

—————- An X or other mark can be done in a second. The refs have other things on their minds when they are on the field. They wouldn’t even notice a difference.

It could happen in that time. If done with a gauge attached to the needle, you only have to look at the 1st ball. The rest can be done by inserting the needle based on time.

If the balls were inspected @ 12.5 psi, it would take 2-3 seconds to deflate each ball 2 psi. Add in 5 seconds per ball for handling and you get a maximum of 88 seconds to complete the deed or 8 seconds per ball. 8 x 11=88 sec.

Most likely he just switched a bag of balls. They already had 12 that they knew wouldn’t pass but Tawmy liked. So get some approved, cast them aside and use the ones you want.

okay, who is going to be the first media fool tomorrow, trying to replicate this exercise of ball deflation in a bathroom?

Is there a place in that bathroom where an identical bag ang and identical balls could be hidden for the mission impossible switcharoo?

^^^ Completely true. Haven’t you guys ever let air out of a ball? You put the needle in and air rushes out. Pretty simple. Doesn’t take long.

If this kid got #11 balls deflated by exactly 2lbs PSI in 90 seconds his talents are being greatly underutilized. Hopefully there’s an opening on seal team six or the hatchet gang.

That’s just about right…. Needle in each ball for 2 seconds allows 2psi to escape if balls were previously 12.5psi….. One thousand one, one thousand two, next ball….. One thousand one, one thousand two…. Next ball…… Yep right on 90 seconds…..

The gist of this story is actually bad for the Patriots, because it now proves there was opportunity. Where one of their employees had time alone with the footballs behind closed doors. Sorry Pats fans. This is not good news.

So we have airtight rules and procedures on ball prep, ball handling, PSI upper and lower limits, measurement by refs, not to mention a host of other stupid rules about socks. etc.

Then the billion dollar institution hands the balls to some zit-faced 18 year stoner. From deep within Gillette, he takes those balls and navigates his way through the stadium under-belly out to the field. If he needs to go #1 or #2, go ahead, no problem. Meanwhile the refs are back in their room yacking, primping, and probably doing a few last pushups.

laughing hard at the Pats fans here jumping on this news as if it clears their team of any wrong doing.

That’s 90 seconds to get the correct footballs out of the bag, get the needle into each ball, carefully release just 2 PSI from each ball and then get all 12 balls back in the bag and exit the bathroom.

If you really think that’s possible, if you really think that scenario is more likely than the ball boy spending 90 seconds to drain the lizard, then I want some of what you’re smoking!

OMG – the kid took a *leak*!!!!!! This is the most amazing ending this could have had! Brilliant! I couldn’t have imagined a better finish. Goodell has officially become a laughingstock!

“From the video of the attendant entering the lavatory with both teams’ footballs and exiting said washroom 1 and a half minutes later we have concluded that the attendant violated state health code regulations as he obviously failed to wash his hands.”

The ball were switched in the bathroom. Identical bag…easy. The other possibility is Brady has one ball deflated,like the one that was intercepted by the Colts, that ball was reportedly way under inflated. Last point : Is it S.O.P. to go to a private area at any time with game balls ? I highly doubt it.

For what it is worth, the footballs are crammed into a bag. If there was intent to deflate the footballs, he would have to take all the balls out, lay them down next to each other so he would know to do a new one each time. Them let a small amount of air out of each ball but not to much with no time to measure and then pack the balls up again in record time.

You might(?) be able to take 12 balls out lay them down in a small room and pack them up in 90 seconds but that is about it

Crisis over, play the game. there is NO WAY Belichick would say with 100% certainty that the Patriots followed the rules to the letter if he did not know in advance.

Nothing changes the fact that 11 of 12 balls were missing air that was certified before the game began.

If your a baseball manager and you bet on your team to lose and they win, it is still against the rules to gamble.

Sooner than later the Pats and their fans will be like Raider fans. Living in the past, how things used to be. Except the patriots will always have a shadow of doubt hovering their years.

And, yes, the photo accompanying this story was taken inside one of the bathrooms at Gillette Stadium. When NBC broadcast the Ravens-Patriots playoff game from Foxboro on January 10, Florio Jr. demanded pictures from the venue. Since he didn’t specify where he wanted them from, I took one inside the bathroom and texted it to him.

An X or other mark can be done in a second. The refs have other things on their minds when they are on the field. They wouldn’t even notice a difference. ===

According to Peter King’s referee bit from last season, they’re numbered, at the very least. Also marked so that they know whose balls they are.

If this video was handed over to the NFL, makes you wonder what else they have on surveillance video that they haven’t handed over.

One would think he would go to the bathroom before getting the footballs so he wouldn’t have to lug the footballs in the bathroom with him. If he’s done this before, would it take him that long to deflate 12 footballs?

if the balls went into the elevator inflated, and came out deflated…we can’t really know for sure unless we see them actually punched in the face. right?

Just stop. The refs mark the balls with silver marker after checking. Seriously your ignorance is showing. Zip up your fly.

——————————— And you can’t get a silver marker anywhere? You can’t put an X of some other mark on a ball?

90 seconds is plenty enough time to deflate 12 footballs. A you gotta do is stick a Needle in each ball for just a few seconds and release some air, causing the PSI to drop in each football. It’s not rocket science people.

If the balls were inspected @ 12.5 psi, it would take 2-3 seconds to deflate each ball 2 psi. Add in 5 seconds per ball for handling and you get a maximum of 88 seconds to complete the deed or 8 seconds per ball. 8 x 11=88 sec. ===

Could there have been another bag of balls already in the bathroom. And was it a patriots employee or nfl employee if it was a patriots employee then why does he have the Colts balls ?

The nfl need to be very thorough and they need to cover all thier bases. The only way to protect the integrity of the league and the investigation is to also check the ball attendants bowel movements and time them. I think the only way to be fair and balanced would be to have roger goodell personally handle this part of the investigation.

also gotta love the guy who worked out all in his head and came to a conclusion that it can be done in 88 seconds, I hear the ball boy knew the investigation was coming and already drafted his memoirs for his book in the remaining 2 seconds.

So 11 balls at 7.5 is roughly 83 seconds….locking the door, taking the balls out, putting them back in….yea so much for that theory

Beautiful lawyer’s dodge. No one is saying that BRADY tampered with the ball, they are saying that the ball boy did at Brady’s behest.

He must have gotten word of the sting operation planned by the NFL and Colts and found a way to not only make them look foolish BUT ALSO create an opportunity to re-educate the public on what Spygate really was about versus what people have mistakenly called it for the past 7 years.

He and TB will win 2 more Super Bowls together and retire going down in the record books as the winningest Coach and QB in SB history AND the tarnish of “Spygate” will have been removed, to boot!

That ball boy has to be embarrassed that everyone in the world now knows about his shrinkage in the bathroom!

If there is no bath in there and just a sink and a toilet, then why call it a “bathroom?” How about calling it a rest, men’s room or a water closet? Anything but bathroom because that just doesn’t make any sense.

Obviously he has some contraption that can deflate up to 12 balls at a time. And since it is new technology, it isn’t perfect and it failed to deflate the 12th ball properly. Obviously.

Some person took two bags of footballs into a bathroom to take a leak. Two bags of footballs. Couldn’t he at least put them outside the door until he was done? Also, 90 seconds? It takes about 3-5 seconds per ball to deflate a ball two lbs. This is just another piece of information that puts the Patriots’ explanation into question.

Haven’t you guys ever let air out of a ball? You put the needle in and air rushes out. Pretty simple. Doesn’t take long. ===

And if you overdo it you have a flat (not under pressured – actually flat) football with no way to blow it back up.

The real scandal here is that if the dude was only in the bathroom for 90 seconds, he definitely didn’t wash his hands. So I guess the balls really did have a foreign substance on them.

Third, from the same source, the evidence comes from a surveillance video that was discovered by the Patriots and given to the NFL early in the investigation. ——————————————————————–

Which means that Goodell, again, isn’t going to watch it or claim that he didn’t see it or know about it until it goes online by a totally different website that usually has nothing at all to do with football. We need you again, TMZ!

90 seconds is not a lot of time to put the bag down, get the Willie out, wait for the tinkle, wait for the shake, zip up, wash, pick up bag, and exit. BUT, if u do this all the time, 90 plenty to deflate balls. single toilet with lock no camera? This is the belichck everyone knows!!!

If I was the Patriots and NFL, I’d be more upset if he had gone into the WC and left the balls outside unattended. Personally I think that shows he’s a conscientious worker who took his responsibilities seriously. But that makes too much sense, and doesnt feed this ridiculous never ending non-story.

Why is it that each and every one of you that can’t seem to understand the basics of chain of custody? We are talking about a league that has more rules than a normal person can fathom. If he needed to go to the potty he should have done that before it was time to do his job!!!! When he takes possession of the ball bags they should never leave plain sight for any reason at all. They do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to the field. It could be assumed that with plenty of practice and knowledge of how long he needs to deflate each ball to get it to the psi desired. It doesn’t take but a couple seconds to remove 1 psi from my tires!! Some of you were born in a box and refuse to think outside of it. Of course that probably makes you a Pats fan because anybody else in there right mind knows what BB is capable of. Bottom line, NO WAY IN HELL those balls should have went into that bathroom. I’m sure the young man knew this, but ” he had to go”!!!!!

Belichick press conference “At no time were any of our footballs prepared anywhere other than our locker room or in an area very close to that, never in a heated room or a heated condition.”

Goodell baited the hook and the same clowns that believed the initial Kensil leaks chomped on this story. This could be a big lose – lose for the haters because it is looking like the Patriots might be off the hook and Goodell could be back in Kraft’s good graces. Could the future include the Patriots winning the SB, the haters looking like fools, and Kraft throwing another party and inviting Goodell. If you are a Patriots fan, it is morning in America.

The bottom line is the officials didn’t test the balls psi before the game and there is video tape and proof of that.

The NFL needs to get rid of ball boys and locker room attendants. The equipment staff should be responsible for the footballs and not some low level flunkies that have been hired. I guess the integrity of the game went down the tubes.

Why 11 balls under inflated and not 12? The only time the Colts could touch a pats ball, besides a turnover, would be at the coin flip. So the pats made sure the one properly inflated ball came out at the start of the game.

As for the bathroom, its likely a bag of footballs was already in the bathroom and the ball boy just dropped the inspected pats bag and picked up a bag already in the bathroom.

According to Peter King’s referee bit from last season, they’re numbered, at the very least. Also marked so that they know whose balls they are.

This is getting into tinfoil-hat land. ———————————————— How long does it take to put a number on a ball and some other marking? It doesn’t have t be perfect the refs won’t even notice a difference. It is rough surface.

Why would he want to be in and out in 90 seconds? Because he wasn’t supposed to be alone in a locked bathroom with the footballs – he was supposed to carry them directly to the field. He knew he needed to be fast, and to be somewhere where he couldn’t be watched. And you can be quite sure the Pats practiced this, as Bill practices everything. He’s famous for it.

Extra Extra.. this just in. The name of the person who carried the balls into the bathroom is: Lee Harvey Osball.

It also explains that he didn’t have time to get to the last ball. === No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball.

Goodell said let’s set up a sting and there’s no tape of the refs testing the balls before the game.

What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

I think the best part of this whole thing was Florio taking the word of Bill Nye cuz he’s a “science guy.”

stoneygroove says: Jan 26, 2015 11:11 PM Circumstantial evidence? Yes. A substantial addition to the growing mountain of evidence? Yes Is it getting very, very difficult for the Pats to mount a defense? Yes. _______________________________________

You obviously only read headlines. You can’t get 12 balls out of the bag and back inside it in 90 seconds, never mind deflate them all.

The game was delayed by 10 minutes because the NFC game went to OT…the kid realized he had time to take a leak before kickoff.

90 seconds…that’s a freaking riot. so many posters were sure THIS was the smoking gun. But, nope…just the peeing ballboy. The investigators must have asked how many shakes he gave it.

And the funniest part…none of this is from confirmed sources. Tomorrow we’ll hear another source put something else out there and and everyone will be sure THAT’s the silver bullet. And a few hours later another source will contradict the other source. Although this source.

How long can it take to carry the balls from the ref’s office to the field — maybe a minute, tops?

Yet instead of going to the bathroom before or after he fulfills his important duty of carrying the game balls for the AFC Championship out to the playing field, this guy decides he needs to go to the bathroom during that short journey, while toting two bags of footballs.

I’m a Pats fan and this is sad. Guilty or not guilty who cares? The league fine is $25,000. They’re probably guilty but let’s be real on how stupid this is and how deflating balls is retarded. An advantage yes/maybe, but how different is it from all the other bull crap that we know goes on. People that hate the pats have to stop trying so hard and following media…….

tony2308 says: Jan 26, 2015 11:48 PM Obviously he has some contraption that can deflate up to 12 balls at a time. And since it is new technology, it isn’t perfect and it failed to deflate the 12th ball properly. Obviously. —————————————————————- Now I don’t know if the official issue at the pro level is the same one that you and I can buy to toss around in the back yard. If it is, then all he needs is an inflation needle. Stick that bad boy into the inflation hole without the pump and the air in the ball should start leaking. Do that for a few seconds for each ball. He also could have met someone that was waiting in there to help. It’s a possibility.

I really don’t care for either team, especially 9-11 truther Pete Carroll, but I hope the Patriots get rocked.

Its one thing to cheat and get caught, but to railroad some low level equipment manager is bush league. Tom Brady’s legacy and the Patriot’s “championships” will always have an * due to a corrupt organization.

How long does it take to put a number on a ball and some other marking? It doesn’t have t be perfect the refs won’t even notice a difference. It is rough surface. ===

You can’t tell if you wrote a number, of if someone else did? Just because you’re an unobservant git doesn’t mean everyone else is. Besides? What if you get the mark wrong? What if the official decides to write a special message on the ball and then realizes its missing?

The needle in the bathroom theory is more plausible than the ball bag swap. There’s fewer ways it could go wrong, and takes fewer people.

If it really was 90 secs there is no possible way he could of deflated 11 balls 2 lbs. each in that time span. Sounds like the Patriots are trying to pin this on some poor guy.

Why would he want to be in and out in 90 seconds? === He didn’t know he was being watched. What the difference between 90 seconds and 11 balls vs 98 seconds (as some have calculated) and 12 balls?

You have to wonder if Glazer is sitting and staring at his smartphone wondering how he didn’t see that second text from his source saying “But the investigators think the kid just had to pee”.

Let’s suppose for the moment that the Pats really did cheat again by doing this and that there would be zero question about it. Man oh man, I can’t wait to read how the Pats fans are going to deny this one! I can just imagine what its like to play poker with any of them. “I honestly don’t know how that ace ended up in my pocket. It must have come with the shirt when I bought it.”

Eric Kester, TV’s official Ball Boy expert, has never been a ball boy according the the Bears. You can’t make this stuff up. 1 psi is 2 psi, 90 second bathroom tape supplied was by the Pats. Offseason is off to a Monty Python start.

The balls were deflated, this was only time it could have happens, they have video of everything else.

If this was ur team try not hating all the haters. It’s so easy cause the excuses r terrible. They’re the Yankees. Hate up

It amazes me how badly people WANT this to be a scandal even if there aren’t facts to support it. Every time I hear them called cheaters I laugh as it just means people can’t handle their success…keep it coming!

The “rogue” ball boy takes the fall and he gets to have dinner with Giselle. Watch out though: she’s just as foul-mouthed as Tom.

is it possible he had to take a leak? If he did a number 2 he’d be in there long enough to blame him for the Lindbergh baby kidnapping.

How do we know that there weren’t already 2 “planted” bags in the bathroom already with the balls already deflated to Brady’s liking? Quick little switcheroo, check the hair in the mirror, and head on out.

Of course someone deflated the Patriots footballs! They deflated them to the exact psi in which Tom Brady would have preferred! They are his footballs! Of course Brady and Belichick aren’t going to admit to any wrongdoing. They are serial cheaters!

Since the Patriots produced the tape is it possible they gave the league this one and are hiding another? 2 psi is significant enough for a ref to notice in the pregame check, and there is no scientific way the balls naturally deflated. The kid was clearly taking a leak, or a time travelling genius with some futuristic device that could deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds.

This is a total team scandal. He went in the bathroom and swapped out 12 balls that were planted there ahead of time. This thing is bigger than Nino Brown the ball boy.

Done this before. I could’ve done all 24 balls in 90 seconds. Pick up a ball… insert gauge for 1 second to expel 2lbs psi…drop ball…repeat

Any college equipment manager can do this. A well-practiced professional equipment manager doing this quickly-on-the-down-low is a no-brainer.

Ah… another room of non-believers. Glad these posters are mostly clueless, but here goes in lawyer speak – #1) No one said that he did it he bathroom, only that he was seen going into the bathroom… maybe he did it before or after. #2) No one said the balls were ‘exactly’ any weight, only that they were under by approx the same amount on each, which leads to #3… #3) Yes, you can do this in 90 seconds, especially if the person had prior practice and had been doing this for other games. Don’t be so fast to blow this of as ‘he was taking a pee’ … have you tried it? All the balls in a bag, dump ’em on the floor, pick them up one at a time, stick a needle with a gauge on it into the air hole and count 1, 2, 3 and move on… Without a doubt you can do 12 and get them all back into the original bag. They all won’t be perfect, but no one said they were. You all assume way too much.

Ever watch NASCAR or F1 do a pit stop? What you can do in 15 seconds is amazing, isn’t it. 90 seconds is an eternity.

Not saying it’s true, I sure don’t know, but blowing it off without even giving it a bit of credence is numbing, Pats fans, we know you don’t want to believe this is going on, but it is and probably has been for a long time. Face it, you’ve been busted.

I’ve generally been ok with Goodell as there is a lot of good that he’s brought to the NFL. But holy crap he’s steered the NFL into a PR mess unnecessarily.

The Pats are in a no-win situation. If they win, it’s because they cheated. If they lose, it’s because of #deflategate.

Rog should have done damage control behind the scenes. Dish out a stern warning and maybe fine the Pats if found guilty.

The footballs were in a fish net like sack just stick a needle in it and on and on and on .the smoking gun is all Ind footballs checked out perfect and 11 of 12 NE footballs were tampered with da da da NE fans can’t explain that away. For reasonable and intelligent people this doesn’t make sense .ok Ne fans explain to me how all of Ind footballs checked out perfect and only one Ne football was good WAKE UP!!??..

What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

Stop being stupid. It is impossible for someone to deflated 12 balls to a similar level in 90 seconds.

It takes the average person only 21 seconds to pee. If he washed his hands he should have been in and out in not more than 45 seconds. What was he doing in there for the other 45 seconds? He had more than enough time to empty the bladder in those balls.

How can Belichek or Kraft say, without a doubt, that they did everything to the book?? If they did, then the balls wouldn’t be under inflated. So either the NFL needs to revise their guidelines and state that the ball’s psi of 12.5 to 13.5 is on the field of play, and not in the locker room or there is a quality control problem with the Patriots and the balls were unintentionally under inflated. Either way, there is something wrong with the process if balls were under inflated. Therefore Kraft can’t say what he did.

90 seconds is actually plenty of time…3 seconds per ball is 33 seconds …+ 57 seconds to relieve himself

Now we have people trying to rationalize how the balls could be deflated in 90 seconds. Please do us all a favor and go back to your bunkers. The gov’t is coming for your guns!!!!! You insecure paranoid dopes.

and why would you have footballs in a bathroom. Exactly to deflate them. Its time to flush the pats cheating season.

No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball __________________ I can’t put it past the NE to have a guy go to the bathroom dump out 12 balls try to lose a smidge of air in each maybe he lost track of them and only did 11.

Especially when you need to hold a closed team meeting to talk about what PSI you like your balls at with your teammates.

Why would he take 24 balls in the bathroom while taking a leak? Fear they would be stolen in less than two minutes out of sight? 11 under inflated balls equals funny business all day. Makes perfect sense to me. AFCCG at home plus recent playoff and Super Bowl failure. Guilty of cheating in the past. For the fame and fortune involved you will do whatever you can get away with.

If this kid could deflate just four balls to a specific PSI in under 90 seconds, I would be extremely impressed.

If he can do it to 11 balls in that time frame, he either has ball deflating super powers or he’s the Devil himself. I can’t believe there are people that think this is even physically possible.

I love these pats fans. They will go down in flames with their team, cheating, lying, integrity no integrity don’t matter. Die hard fans for sure.

Problem is your Patriots don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. They break rules. And they knowingly do it, we can’t get over it because it seems to keep happening and the NFL is insulting I agree with their preschool investigation. Their footballs were deflated, by someone. Maybe Goodell? 11-12 balls is more then a coincidence. Football fans from other cities are done with these guys, we’re sick of hearing how great these guys are but then they bend the rules., tape walkthroughs, fudge injury reports, we’re spent on this team. I never heard of one team be accused so much.

Is there a possibility that someone was already in the bathroom with the deflated balls and all he had to do was switch them out. It would not take long at all!

I love that this isn’t even an equipment manager, it is a “locker room attendant”…which sounds as low on the totem pole as you can get. This kids whole job is the move them from one place to another, I’m guessing.

Now we are supposed to believe that Tom Brady or Bill Belichick handed this kid a needle and said, “Hey kid, when the refs give you the ball, duck into the bathroom, empty all the balls out of the bag, defate each one by 1 or 2 psi (depending on which report you believe), put them back in, and get to that field before anyone notices!”

We have heard all week about how meticulous Tom Brady is about his precious footballs, now we are supposed to believe that he signed off on a “locker room attendant” messing with the air pressure of said balls in a little bathroom.

Why is it that each and every one of you that can’t seem to understand the basics of chain of custody? We are talking about a league that has more rules than a normal person can fathom. If he needed to go to the potty he should have done that before it was time to do his job!!!! When he takes possession of the ball bags they should never leave plain sight for any reason at all. They do not pass go, do not collect $200, straight to the field. It could be assumed that with plenty of practice and knowledge of how long he needs to deflate each ball to get it to the psi desired. It doesn’t take but a couple seconds to remove 1 psi from my tires!! Some of you were born in a box and refuse to think outside of it. Of course that probably makes you a Pats fan because anybody else in there right mind knows what BB is capable of. Bottom line, NO WAY IN HELL those balls should have went into that bathroom. I’m sure the young man knew this, but ” he had to go”!!!!!

And in the future, I’m sure it’ll happen as you describe. But last Sunday, you can’t convince me that ANYONE cared enough to monitor bathroom time for a ball boy. It was a non-issue that forever more won’t be a non-issue. Chain of custody, while perfectly practical, has likely never been mentioned in reference to the footballs until this past week.

And it’s hilarious that all of the people who insist that BB is not a genius then give him magical powers of evil the way that you have. Perhaps he’s a wizard instead?

A couple of things here…. First off, the Patriots and Colts both have 24 balls each…12 primary and 12 backup. So him having 24 could be all Pats (could also be all Colts, since the home team provides the ball boys for the visiting team).

Another thing is that if the Patriots wanted the balls at a certain amount of air pressure, why would they be so different? If it was that important to have them squeezably soft, why was there so much variation (1 to 2 psi difference) rather than all more equal to provide a consistent experience? Seems to me that if the QB wanted them all 2 psi lighter, they would all be 2 psi lighter… I would think that the difference would actually hamper the ability to throw the ball, and certain affect using one to another on different plays when the first time a QB touches the football on a play is when he receives the snap. How does he know which weight he’d be getting from one time to the next? Seems much more complex to go that route when he obviously could grip and throw the properly inflated balls in worse conditions without incident.

Laughing so hard at the idiots trying to cling to the notion that this is a smoking gun. No, it’s not possible to deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds. Locking the door, taking all of the balls out, sticking the needle in each one, putting them back in the bag, unlocking the door…in 90 seconds? With years of practice, doing it like your life depends on it? Sure, maybe. But why the hell would he rush? He has no idea he’s even being timed, let alone that anybody will ever know he went in there. If he was deflating the balls, he would’ve taken his time and gotten it right. Now, peeing and washing your hands? That’s a comfortable 90 seconds on the dot right there.

I don’t know if the Patriots deflated the balls, but this sure as hell doesn’t prove they did. Oh, and I hate to break it to you, but neither does the “why didn’t the cold affect the Colts’ balls???” argument. As we found out from Aaron Rodgers, there are just as many QBs who like the footballs overinflated – and Luck just may be one of them. So if they inflate their balls to the maximum, or a little over, and the cold causes the pressure to drop the same amount as the Patriots’ then, by golly, they’re still legal.

12 balls for each team were used in the game. Only 11 balls were under inflated and those belonged to the Patriots. None of the Colts balls were under inflated.

If that was the cause, then wouldn’t the Colts have under inflated balls also? They played in the same weather, on the same field, for the same amount of time.

This is just too much of a coincidence. Either the Patriots had low or under inflated balls to begin with and/or someone under inflated them after they were checked. Especially after learning that the balls were checked at half-time and they stayed inflated at the right pressure through the second half of the game. Therefore, it couldn’t have been the weather, temperature, or atmospheric conditions.

Well, 90 seconds is not enough time to wash hands. That’s one high five Brady should be happy he got left hanging on.

It’s almost funny how so many fans are reaching for a non incriminating explanation. HE TOOK FOOTBALLS INTO A BATHROOM. A BATHROOM! WHO DOES THAT?

Show me in the rule book that a ball boy is supposed to go directly to the field? All it says is you can’t tamper with the footballs after their inspected…

Reporter for yahoo already tested this before video was found. Takes less than 30 seconds for 12 balls on the first try. If practiced…

In 90 seconds I could switch bags with one stashed in there ahead of time. I can’t pee including unzipping and zipping in that length of time.

Another thing I love: the idea of this poor kid sitting in front of an extremely agitated Bill Belichick, probably the most frightening man on the face of the earth, and having to explain why he ducked into the bathroom for 90 seconds. He probably knew he wasn’t supposed to go…but he’s the “locker room attendant,” and he thought, “Aw, who’s gonna know?” And now it is literally international news.

And did they really do 40 interviews about this kid’s bathroom habits? Talk to his mom, his sister, his college roommate? 40 interviews!

90 seconds can be a long time to deflate 11 balls, or switch bags of balls from a stall. I am NOT saying that something happened, just that 90 seconds does not mean nothing happened.

It also explains that he didn’t have time to get to the last ball. === No it doesn’t. He didn’t know he was being watched, thus he has no reason to hurry and not do the last ball.

The normal inflated ball is most likely for the kicker. Under inflated balls do not give you an advantage in kicking.

The kid was interviewed by the NFL and prior to that the Patriots. I have no idea what he said but I am certain that if he did anything it would be known.

Why don’t you all just find something else to do besides watching or even talking about this fiasco of a product called a football game. The game is going to be so lopsided with Lynch loaded with the most powerful PED’S and by the way why is he never tested? This guy(Lynch) will score four or five touchdowns running right thru players like they are not even there. I have seen it before and you are going to see it again and you will be asking yourself or someone is this guy normal or what. Have you ever really taken a close look at this guy? He would scare the hell out of a King cobra if it was face to face with him. SB a waste of time!!!!!!

So now we have a potential fall guy. Was there an elevator in the bathroom, too? And what about video from there? Geeeeeezzzzz…..

I believe he hit the same ball twice causing a difference in 2 psi, while the other 10 were the newly reported 1 psi under…

Ninety seconds is plenty of time. If this is a recurring situation, the guy knows what he’s doing. A fully inflated football is pretty taut – opening the valve for three or four seconds is plenty of time to soften the ball. Go ahead and count to 4-mississippi and imagine a high-pressure hiss the whole time.

I’m not saying he did it, but an experienced, organized person who can count to four could certainly accomplish it in ninety seconds.

Why was the attendant given the balls to be used by both teams? One attendant should have picked up the Patriots balls and another should have picked up the Colts balls. I believe that is standard procedure. Mike, your source is connected to the Patriots.

I would bet money there was a camera on those balls from the time the refs got the balls until they gave them to the ball boy.

An alleged minor rule infraction not worth bothering with until after the SB. You would think it were worthy of execution reading the hyperventilating of many of the comments here.

To put into perspective how much time we are talking about here. 90 seconds is enough time to conceive a baby. To make a human being. Sticking a pin in 11 balls to let out the air is rather trivial in comparison.

Seriously…if you do a job over a number of years, you can become quite effective and efficient at it.

Based on the statistics now floating around regarding New England’s extreme efficiency of ball control in the last several years, something has changed.

The guy who brought up chain of custody is absolutely right. If you are responsible for the actual game balls in the AFC Championship, do you honestly believe the guy is gonna go get the balls, then think “shoot, I need to take a wiz on my way out”.

Seriously shocking how many people are willing to turn a blind eye when someone is essentially making a fool of you.

This is getting ridiculous. Nobody Cheats and bend the rules more than the Seahawks. Let’s put this cheating talk to rest.

So if I understand the Pats hater angle, the guy perfected deflating footballs in record speed, but he used a bathroom with a camera on it.

heh, dude just had to take a whiz… talk about conspiracy theories, this witch hunt is getting funnier by the minute…

So you own 12 Official “The Duke” NFL game balls? That’s 100 dollars a pop ($1200). You, under the pressure of video surveillance, walked into a bathroom with 2 bags of 24 footballs, differentiated the correct bag, removed all 12 footballs, made sure you didn’t hit the same ball twice; keep in mind this would require removing all 12 footballs at once (dropping them on the floor of the bathroom where they can bounce around like a fumble), gathering them 1 by 1, deflating them by no more than 2 psi each, putting them back in the bag, and then walking out of the bathroom in 90 seconds.

Is there video footage of the equipment manager treating the footballs to support Belichick’s theory?

Well if Bill had the time, he would probably take 12 balls in a bag in a restroom and see if he can take a ball out of the bag, deflate it, put it back in the bag and repeat the sequence 12 times (oh ok 11 times) all in under 90 seconds. Don’t tempt him now.

I couldn’t dislike the Seahawks or the Patriots any more than I already do, however I see this as much an officiants issue as anything. It’s the job of the officials to inspect each ball to be used and then approve or disapprove of them. If the truth were known they probably didn’t inspect them at all. Or if they did it was a visual inspection at best. Therefore the real responsibility falls squarely on the shoulders of the officials. The same officials that have made mistake after mistake all year. Some really big mistakes on top of that.

Now did the Patriots know from experience that the alls wouldn’t be thoroughly inspected and take advantage of the fact…I don’t know, but in my eyes this isn’t just a Patriots issue

Oh my God, I don’t care. I just don’t care anymore. Please–let this end Media! I just don’t care! I don’t care what Brady did, or the ball boy or Belecheat…just seriously let this end. Now. End my pain. Please.

Really? Since he didn’t know he was being recorded no way would he go into a locked room to perform a deed that is blatantly illegal.

Yes, when I wiz I take 12 balls into a small broom with me because I can’t hold it for 20 more yards even though I knew going in I had to take them out.

I just wish I were that kid. No matter what happened, my savings account would be going up dramatically.

Hey…could it be that the refs deflated the balls because Roger was trying to fix the game? I know this sounds off, but Roger has done some odd things this year, and I wouldn’t put it past him.

It would be interesting to see if this same attendant did the same thing in the previous home game. I also find it odd if the Patriots did cheat that they would entrust some guy who makes 10 bucks a hour to do something like this.

It would also be nice to see the video. And saying it is about 90 seconds…what does that mean? That sounds like it is less than 90 seconds. If so how much so? And who the hell is leaking all this info? Why is this info being leaked before the final report?

So here is the time frame: 4 seconds to close the door and lock it 8 seconds to dump balls out and try to get them kinda organized 6.7 seconds per ball to grab the ball rotate it in hand, deflate it amazingly accurately, and then stuff it back in the bag 4 seconds to unlock door and exit

And nothing bad happens….like a ball falling down and rolling behind a toilet…lets face it footballs were not exactly designed to be very cooperative.

If he went to take a pee and left the balls out, then people would be screaming about lax security. So, NFL, what was he doing for 90 seconds? Or is this another dead end? Produce something tangible. You too Florio.

Adnan clearly didn’t have time to strangle Hey and make the call from the Best Buy that may or may not have had a payphone. Oops, wrong topic.

who cant switch a bag full of 12 footballs in 90 seconds? walk in with one bag walk out with another. easy as pie. in the espionage business this is known as a dead drop.

Who takes a bag of footballs to go to the toilet? answer someone who doesnt want to be observed doing something he shouldnt?

Clearly there is no possible way, no conceivable manner in which a guy can deflate 11 balls in 90 seconds. I mean, he surely never practiced this before, so it being the first time and all, it would have taken more time, right? (I’m willing to say that after testing this at home 5-6 times, I’d have an exact “one-one-thousand” count down and could manage it pretty exactly without years of practice.) What, he may have done this before? May have even practiced this exact routine daily? Oh well, then….

What’s even better is everybody making excuses for his quick pee–not sure what kind of work ethic you have personally, but say you are in the middle of your job, handling just-verified, sensitive materials and your only task for the next couple minutes is to deliver them to their respective owners (two hours before game-time, so it’s not like you’re super busy right after that delivery), so you decide… yeah, I gotta take a leak? That’s as laughable as assuming he did it on his own, without guidance, approval, or prior practice.

Have you seen the recent articles (Saturday’s Wall Street Journal, among others) on the Pats’ fumble tendencies, particularly for players when they are Pats and when they are on other teams? It’s amazing how much better they are at not fumbling when they wear a certain uniform. How on earth can that be explained? And you still believe the balls have been kosher all these years? Blinders.

The saddest thing is this guy will swing (luckily his early retirement will be well-funded) but Goodell will not likely apply his “ignorance is no excuse” doctrine to the Pats and take down the upper management folks who authorized this, or didn’t know it went on when they should have which is what got Sean Payton nailed.

Only 11 balls are deflated instead of all 12 because you need to have 1 to hand the officials in case, for some reason, during the game, they ask for a ball to check.

Assuming the Pats have been doing this for awhile, getting a routine down to let 2 psi out of 11 balls very quickly in a secluded spot wouldn’t take that long.

Really people, its a stupid game, for those who think your life will benefits from any of these games is mind boggling, unless you made a bet like over 20k to win, you gain nothing its entertainment. that’s all. its a stupid game! brought from years and years of slow training of you to like a stupid game! Poor sad people out there!

Hmmm…yeah….he’s going out onto the field for warmups and the first half at least, and he decides it’s a good idea to pee.

Well, at least you put in the article that it was a bathroom, it was for 90 seconds, and it was a video discovered by and provided by the Patriots.

Had it been a storage closet, been longer than say 3 minutes, and a video that was provided by a security company, you would have been on that like white on rice.

On a side note I keep hearing “why didn’t the Colts footballs lose pressure, yada yada yada. Well, what we have not heard is what they were blown up to in the first place. Also, the Colts balls were not used nearly as much because that offense stunk up the joint, and the Pats offense dominated the time of possession. The Patriots had the ball for over 15 minutes more than the Colts as a result of their 35-0 run. It doesn;t sound like all the balls were down 2 psi either. Just one, and it was the one that the Colts had taken to their sideline and played with!

You Patriot fans are a bunch of CLOWNS in denial. The guy has 1 job: take the balls directly to the field. But he didn’t do that! He went into a secured, single use bathroom (and we all know it’s illegal to have cameras in bathrooms).

Trying to rationalize this by saying “he couldn’t do it in 90 seconds” is just a desperate last gasp of hope you fools are hanging onto. It takes seconds to take 2 PSI out of a ball.

You can kick and scream all you want, but deep down you know what happened, you’re just too proud to admit it.

Simply outrageous … this guy needs to take a whiz a couple times a day? Say it ain’t so!!! It must be all Brady’s fault!! LOL!

Its the beginning of the end chowderheads. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving team. Good riddens to Belichek and Brady. The NFL won’t miss you.

Why would he take the balls with him into the bathroom? What kind of sense does that make? C’mon man. People have been struggling to find excuses for what happened to those balls for a week now, but there aren’t any. Accept it. Some lowly ball boy will take the fall after the Super Bowl.

Easy one people. Probably could of switched bags that he stashed the day before. You probably will have to go back a couple of days to verify.

Has nobody here ever freaking pumped a tire and adjusted it? It would take exactly two sec. to take the air out of one ball, esp if they had practice as an equipment manager would. Ever been to a bike shop? The guys who fill tires all the time have it down. And, the attendant wouldn’t have to take the balls out the bag. Just do it in the bag. 90 sec, 11 balls, hell yes that’s enough time. Come on.

First of all, it wouldn’t be 90 seconds to deflate balls. It would be 90 seconds to bring balls into room, get them out of bag, remove air, reload into bag and get back out??? That strains incredulity. That is just so far fetched.

This was a witch hunt from the get go. So what is the commissioner of the NFL doing setting up a sting during afc championship game? It is a disgrace. He unfairly caused a you know what storm for no reason!!!!!!

And let’s just get this straight: so roger Goodell couldn’t get a video of Ray rice beating his girlfriend, but he was able to get a video of the poor ball boy taking a leak before the game when it suited him.

This guy is a loser, he has been an awful commissioner from day 1, and now it’s time for him to go. He betrayed Mr Kraft. He is clearly incompetent and I’m going to enjoy the media blitz as the crosshairs turn to him and his disgraceful lack of competence. The beginning of the end for Goodell.

Hey Mike, instead of pushing a story like this which makes the investigation sound even more ridiculous, interview the ref who checked the balls to see if they were ever at 12.5-13.5 to begin with. Why not ask questions as to what procedures are used? I guarantee even then they will deny, say they signed off, everything was checked when they weren’t to begin with. I’m willing to bet the ball were given a slight squeeze, they all felt consistent, and were passed along. I’m also willing to bet that they find that there really is not quality control check that is enforced for every team/ every game. And furthermore, if there were a quality control in place, the person or persons conducting such a check would be held responsible. In other words, someone didn’t do their job and most likely hasn’t done it in a really, really long time.

If you failed, men in white coats will arrive shortly at your front door. When you meet them, go quietly, they’re your friends. And remember, our padded facilities are expressly for your own protection.

We caught quite a few this time, to join those who’ve seen Bigfoot and those who’ve been abducted by aliens. Some of our newest guests include Jerome Bettis, Mark Brunell, Marshall Faulk, John Harbaugh, everyone at ESPN, the authors of this blog, the woman who wrote an article on CNN claiming the Colts should be in the Super Bowl, Roger Goodell, and, of course, the entire Jets organization.

Take all the balls out deflate 11 of them, put them back one by one all in 90 seconds. Take 2 big bags of balls, open the door, unzip your fly, take a leak, zip up, wash your hands, open the door pick up the 2 bags, all in 90 seconds.—- quite sure the NFl will try to duplicate the scenarios. Why bother. The Pats is already pronounced guilty by the media and the talking heads.

If the bathroom has those cool touch-free Dyson dryers – he could’ve quickly heated them up or something, because you know, science. Just saying.

OK experts, time to fill the video sites with jokesters trying to see if they can do this alleged crime against nature, animals, and small kids.

Now it’s time to look at the video of the ball boy on the sideline – The Pats should easily have that available too.

I am waiting for them to suoer impose suh walking out of the walking out of the bathroom so they can say suh did it. They want to ban him from the league and we havnt had a suh is bad story in a while so …

All the statements and scientific claims coming from the patriots still have yet to answer a few fundamental questions…

1. Why is it that only their footballs were out of spec at halftime? 2. When the refs made them use a second set of footballs in the second half, how come those footballs were in spec at the end of the game?

Clearly, it seems like they have spent a lot of time researching and testing in order to come up with their explanation of why 11 footballs were out of spec. But, even if one was to believe the math behind the pats explanation. they have yet to address why the colts footballs and the pats 2nd half footballs did not have the same problem.

Lol some of u haters need to stop taking crazy pills and put ur tinfoi hats back on. Its clear u are so scared of the patriots that they are already in ur heads.

apkyletexas says: Jan 27, 2015 12:00 AM What most of you don’t understand is that in a criminal investigation, you look for three things. Motive, opportunity, and rationalization. What you just got here was clear opportunity. The kid was not supposed to be going into a locked room with those balls where he could do something unobserved. The fact that he was in and out quickly only goes to show that he was quite practiced at it, and that he knew he needed to be quick so he wouldn’t get caught.

People here are funny. And by people, I mean Pats fans. Its 90 seconds so it does matter? Did you ever stop to think that deflated balls were already in the bathroom, and were used to replace the others?

There’s a million possibilities. The important part is that protocol was broken. Motive already established. Past history already established. Now, we have opportunity. Open and shut case, your honor.

So the balls were alone with a Patriots employee in a locked room for at least 90 seconds. It’s more than possible to let out 2 pounds of pressure from each ball in that amount of time as long as you had a psi gauge with a release button. Disqualify the Patriots.

Belichick and Brady told him to do this. Yeah right. And the earth is flat too. Sounds like sabotage. I bet the Ravens know something.

So the surveillance video was “discovered” by the Patriots? They turned it over to the NFL. Do they not know where all the surveillance cameras are in their own stadium? They had to “discover” it? When they “discovered” the video, how long did it take them to tamper with it? Maybe he was in there a lot longer than 90 seconds.

If he was taking a leak, why wouldn’t he go to a urinal after dropping off the balls? He must have been in a hurry to relieve himself.

I love how people are still calling the Patriots cheaters, in spite of more and more news coming out that says otherwise. I have laughed at some of the outrageous things reporters, journalist, fans analysis, you name it have said about this allegations, because their comments exposed them for being an absolute moron. Troy Aikman, Sal Paolantonio and Mark Brunell should never show their faces on TV again for the absurd comments they made, not to mention these “objective” New York journalist, who tried taking all the Patriot’s accomplishments away.

This is more than just fandom or hatred. There is a difference between love to hate than hate to hate. People genuinely want to see the Patriots’ legacy from the bottom up be tarnished and destroyed forever. Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, who are unanimous Hall of Famers, have put in more time and dedication to their quest than any one of these so-called journalist or fans ever have in this organization. Yet, there are not only fans but columnist and journalist who want to stain their legacy and talk down their achievements because of alleged (not even proven) deflated footballs in a 45-7 blowout.

If the NFL found the Patriots guilty (which now seems to be a pipedream for these haters), they would have to apologize to lots of people. Will these accusers apologize? I am sure some of the classier ones will, but most of them will not.

People say that Patriot fans are the most insufferable fanbase in the world. Surely, some of arrogant and over-the-line. However, the anti-Patriot people exposed themselves as being the bottom of the barrel, the lowest of lows in terms of sports “fans”. I’ve read some of most disgusting columns and comments this past week, and that is saying something.

Interesting how they have THIS video, but the video of Ray Rice punching his ladyfriend never saw the light of day.

So, PFT boys…how long does it take you to go???..90 seconds sound correct? If you were going to be on field for next 2 hours, would it be a good idea to make a rest stop before hand???

one time, i was at the mall. i had a bag from the gap(this was freshmen year in high school, circa 1999). I had to do a pee pee. so i took the bag into the bathroom with me!!!!!!!! dunnn dunnnn dunnnnnnnnnn. nothing to see here, move on!!

To the people claiming that “this could be done in 90 seconds” you are seriously, pathetically grasping at straws. In your fantasy scenario, for someone to be able to effectively remove just the right amount of air pressure from each ball, they’d have to have things already set up in row right in front of them.

But that’s not what we have here. We have a kid carrying a bulky bag of footballs into a bathroom. The clock starts there. At that point, he’s not just going to lock the door behind him, close his eyes and randomly grab footballs inside the bag to stick with a needle in a race against time. He’d have to take time to remove them one by one and put them in a row so he’d know which ones he’d already done. Then, after “deflating” each one, he’d have to put them in the bag. Hell, even without trying to deflate anything just arranging everything (presumably) on the ground would’ve taken 90 seconds in itself.

Since the Patriots came up with this footage very quickly, then I wouldn’t mind seeing all the footage to see how often this ball boy had to relieve him self while having the game balls in tow.

His adrenaline should of been so pumped up walking on the field minutes before the game started that needing to taking a piss should of been the last thing on his mind…these are fanboys, not paid professionals…oh wait…not paid…hmm…

I just find odd that a ball boy takes 12 footballs into a bathroom because he has to suddenly pee right after the balls where inspected and 10 minutes before kickoff…Seriously…is this kid 12 years old…no…he knows the deal…you don’t take footballs that were just inspected by NFL referees into a freakin bathroom like it’s just some kind of normal thing…he should of been a normal person and said “I gotta piss” and left the balls in the room, walked down the hall took his 90 sec leak, and came back…but for some reason he got a urge to have to take a leak while delivering the footballs to be played int he AFC championship game….

Or more likely this is a red herring the Patriots “discovered” in their own stadium. They know where the surveillance cameras are, and where they are not. Why would they be caught in any wrongdoing on camera?

Where’s the only place you are assured of no video cameras…a bathroom (well in most places